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Carlton Ware World does not accuse sellers of knowingly selling fake items.  Sellers too can be duped by those from whom they bought the item/s.

Friday 30 April 2010
Another batch of fakes from nevetswogsalg
EBay seller nevetswogsalg, who has a feedback rating of 99.6%, has been busy in the last week and listed more Carlton Ware fakes. He invariably describes the fake Carlton Ware items he sells as being in very good condition - they would be because they are hot off the kiln!

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seal  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seals  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seals
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness penguin money box
Signed, sealed and not delivered to a Carlton Ware collector, we hope!

The fake with the orange base is a new departure in that the backgrounds from the stable of nevetswogsalg have been white.

These non-Carlton Ware seal shapes have been seen by us before but not the fake penguin money box on the left. All, as usual, are smothered in advertising slogans; Guinness suffers the most from the treatment. ❑

Earlier eBay Watch items are moved to eBay Watch pages. To view these click on the EBay Watch link on the sidebar menu to the left at the top of this page. 
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Saturday 5 September 2009
More...
Fake Garlton Ware Guinness plate Fake Garlton Ware Guinness teapot Fake Garlton Ware Guinness jug
Last week we warned you to expect more Carlton Ware Guinness fakes. Our predictions
were correct. Here are another three of the latest. As usual, they are being offered by eBay seller nevetswogsalg (Glasgow Steve backwards). ❑

You can easily report these items to eBay as counterfeit by viewing each one and clicking on the report item link.
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Thursday 27 August 2009
New batch of fakes - Guinness labels...

Although we tire of reading about fakes, and yet more fakes, Carlton Ware World does believe that it is important to inform our readers of new batches of these deceitful items, so we hope that you will be patient with our reports on fakes.  It is this time of year that we find new batches are placed on the market, presumably to catch the forthcoming Christmas market.

Fake Garlton Ware Guinness coffee pot  Fake Garlton Ware Guinness comport 
EBay seller nevetswogsalg (Glasgow Steve backwards), who seems to have a continuous supply of Carlton Ware fakes, is now offering the fake Carlton Ware coffee pot and tazza shown above. These both use lithographs of Guinness labels, as did the three jugs we spotted last week and featured further down the page. One of these jugs was offered by gails8971.

This week gails8971 is selling the fake Carlton Ware jug shown below. Both sellers are based in Milton Keynes. This time, neither seller shows a picture of backstamps, but tell us they are by Carlton Ware, which they are not. Do they know one another we wonder? ❑

Fake Garlton Ware Guinness jug  Fake Garlton Ware Guinness jug

Watch out for more shapes using these Guinness labels and other lithographs - if they are marked Carlton Ware they are fakes.
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Wednesday 26 August 2009
Sample this...
Fake Garlton Ware Guinness jug
In the last week, three   fake Carlton Ware jugs, like, and including the one shown on the left, have been offered for sale on eBay. 

They appear to be well-potted. This one, aside from the faked Carlton/Guinness Park Royal mark, has an additional SAMPLE 2 printed to the base.  Another says SAMPLE 1, and the third has no such mark.

Certainly, these jugs are not a Carlton Ware shape, nor are the lithographs of Guinness labels that cover them anything to do with Carlton. It is possible that the SAMPLE marks are used to give "added value"! Indeed the "SAMPLE" jugs went for £86 each including p&p, whereas the other was sold for £26 plus £9 p&p.

Curiously, one of the jugs is being sold from Milton Keynes, where a disproportionate number of fakes seem to hail. This time the seller is gails8971. ❑


Half baked...
Fake Garlton Ware Guinness Gilroy zoo keeper
Also new to us is this 7-inch tall fake Carlton Ware money box, in the form of John Gilroy's Zoo Keeper for Guinness. We have overlaid a standard unit of measurement, namely a baked bean tin, alongside so you can judge the figure's size.

It is being offered by eBay seller nevetswogsalg (Glasgow Steve backwards), who seems to have a continuous supply of Carlton Ware fakes.  He is also based in Milton Keynes.❑
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Saturday 8 August 2009
More fakes
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness water jug  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness water jug backstamp  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness water jug       
This white water jug with its fake Guinness backstamp was spotted on eBay this week.
We reported on the similar the brown version on the right in May last year. ❑

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Friday 24 July 2009
New Book!
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness book money box 1   Fake Carlton Ware Guinness book money box 2
Not a new book on Carlton Ware, but  Carlton Ware on a new book.  Yes, these money boxes on the left, in the form of a book, are the latest arrivals from the fakers bearing the inevitable fake Script mark and Guinness slogans.

They are being offered by eBay seller nevetswogsalg (Glasgow Steve backwards), who always seems to have several Carlton Ware fakes for sale at any time. ❑


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Tuesday 23 June 2009
More fakes!
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness square tray Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seal balancing bottle on nose Fake Garlton Ware Guinness polar bear
None of these have been posted to our site before. The square tray or dish and the sealse were offered by the same seller nevetswogsalg, (glasgow steve backwards) who has sold Carlton Ware fakes in the past and is based in Milton Keynes.  All use a faked script mark.

Since posting this warning nevetswogsalg has offered another three square trays on eBay, two of which use different images in the the centre. the tray is being made in two sizes, 10" and 8" square. ❑
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Tuesday 5 May 2009
Four more Fakes for you to avoid
Fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware dish Fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware 3 segment dish Fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware salt & pepper Fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware salt & pepper   
They still come thick and fast. Here are four more fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware spotted on eBay this week.  They all have the characteristic white or black grounds with many Guinness slogans.

Curiously, they are being offered by the same vendor of some of the fakes spotted last month, who is based in Buckingham/Milton Keynes using the name nevetswogsalg. ❑

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Wednesday 25 March 2009
Double Identity Crisis!

A Pelican Fake pelican decorated as a toucan! 
A Pelican in Toucan's clothing!
It's not Carlton Ware and it's not a toucan! This crudely modelled pelican, which has a fake Carlton Ware backstamp is decorated as if it was a toucan - poor thing! The fakers art knows no bounds!

Inevitably, it turned up on eBay, though this time the seller admits it's "not an original piece". ❑

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Thursday 26 February 2009
Perched, Ready to Deceive 

Fake Guinness Toucan on Perch  Fake Guinness Toucan on perch backstamp
Crudely modelled and decorated, this toucan on a metal perch is the latest addition to the spate of fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware.

This example carries the fake Script backstamp, printed in black under the perch.  It has a starting bid of £99! ❑
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Monday 12 January 2009
It's big, but it's still a Fake
Fake Guinness pint glass ashtray 
This fake "Large Carlton Ware Guinness Pint Glass Ash Tray" was recently offered for sale on eBay.  It is new to us and, of course, has all the tell-tale signs of deceitful ware.

It uses the fake red backstamp shown in the inset, which reads:-


Produced in Great Britain for Arthur Guinness Son & Co (Park Royal) Ltd by Carlton Ware Limited, Stoke on Trent. ❑
 

Another vendor is selling the three Guinness fakes below. Described as "unsual", alas they are all to familiar to us here at Carlton Towers, having been around for more than ten years. ❑

Fake Guinnes pengiun holding plaque  Fake Guinness plaque  Fake Guinness toucan plaque

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Friday 12 December 2008
Another Gold Label, Another Fake

Fake Garlton Ware Guinness beaker


The gold coloured 'label' on this conical beaker, or mug, is one of the sure signs that this item is fake. Any pottery marked Carlton Ware with this gold Guinness label is fake.

In case you can't make it out from the picture, the handle is metal. The fake Carlton Ware backstamp is printed in red and shown vertically in the inset. ❑
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Wednesday 3 December 2008
More of the same
Original Guinness storage jar Fake Guinness storage jar


Here is a newly discovered Carlton Ware Guinness fake for you, this time in the form of a storage jar. On the far left we show an original, which you can see has a lid.

As usual the faker uses many Guinness slogans, far more than originally. The usual fake Script backstamp is used, this time printed in black. ❑
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Thursday 20 November 2008
More Bottle label fakes.
Fake Guinness plate 1 Fake Guinness plate 2
These 7" fake Carlton Ware plates have just surfaced on eBay. Both are printed with a gold Guinness bottle label. One says Give him a Guinness, the other  My Goodness, My Guinness Both use the fake Script mark in red. ❑

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Saturday 15 November 2008
Another fake Toucan
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness toucan   
This fake Carlton Ware toucan surfaced this week. Unusually, it does not have any Guinness slogans but does exhibit the crude decoration usually found on fakes.

Its fake Crown backstamp is shown in the inset - Ltd was never used in conjuction with the Crown backstamp. This particular model has been around for some years.

With typical eBay rhetoric, the seller described it as '"amazing" and  "rare" - what can we say?  ❑

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Monday 10 November 2008
New fake 'Reproduction' backstamp!
Fake script backstamp with Reproduction   
Politicians have a way with words. So do fakers! They too are economical with the actualité, as illustrated with a newly discovered fake backstamp, which adds "Reproduction" beneath the fake Script backstamp, as shown on the left.

No such mark was ever used on Carlton Ware.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness toucan table lamp.   
The use of this mark has just surfaced on the fake toucan lamp base shown on the right. The seller tells us 

I understand that Carlton Ware made very few of these stands as reproductions so it makes it rare in its own right!

It is curious that such a "rare" item is offered with a starting price of 99p and no reserve!

The fake exhibits the usual inferior decoration.  ❑

Zoo grows in size as more new fakes appear
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness toucans salt & pepper 
Typically, at any time, eBay shows at least ten fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware items. Often, these are from the Zoo series which Carlton Ware introduced in the 1950s. Alas, original moulds fell into the hands of the fakers in 1989. You can see all of the originals by clicking here.

Other fakes, loosely based on animals from the zoo series, whose shapes have been created by the fakers, also abound. A good example is the toucan salt and pepper shown on the left. ❑
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Friday 7 November 2008
A Tell Tale of Two Toucans!
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness toucan wall plaque Original Carlton Ware toucan wall plaque
A fake Guinness, fake Carlton Ware wall plaque appears on eBay again. 

Here, it is shown next to an original one.
It's not too difficult to tell which is which.
The fake is on the far left, of course.

The seller tells us that there is slite makers roughness on paintwork.  Indeed!

The toucan did not sell but was relisted. ❑
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Friday 24 October 2008
Avoid the gold label...
OSLO coffee ware Fake Carlton Ware Guinness OSLO coffee ware  
In the 1970s Carlton Ware introduced its OSLO coffee set, part of which is shown in the picture, far left.

The hot milk jug, near left, with fake Guinness  slogans and 'label' appeared on eBay in October 2008.

The facsimile of a Guinness bottle label was never used by Carlton Ware.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness OSLO coffee ware Fake Carlton Ware Guinness OSLO coffee ware Fake Carlton Ware Guinness OSLO coffee ware
Of particular concern with this fake is that it appears the slogans have been added recently to an original pot made thirty or so years ago. We will continue to investigate this possible trend.

Look out for more of the same. ❑
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Thursday 16 October 2008
Fakes production speeds up
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness plate with tortoise  
This new fake Carlton Ware, fake Guinness plate was never made by Carlton Ware, or for Guinness. We first spotted it on eBay in October 2008.
As with so many of these deceitful wares, it is covered with Guinness slogans.

The backstamp used is shown in the inset. Although it is out of focus, we believe it reads Produced in Great Britain for Arthur Guinness Son & Co (Park Royal) Ltd. by Carlton Ware Limited, Stoke on Trent, a copy of a mark used on original Guinness Ware. ❑
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Friday 10 October 2008
Money is the root of all evil!
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness toucan money box  
This fake Carlton Ware, fake Guinness money box was never made by Carlton Ware, or for Guinness.

As with so many of these deceitful wares, it is covered with Guinness slogans.

On request, the seller placed an image of the backstamp, but it was so blurred that it is not worth showing. As expected, it is the usual fake Script mark printed in red.

The seller removed the listing after the item sold, so we cannot provide a link to it. ❑
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Monday 6 October 2008
Another Fake Signed & Sealed!
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness mother & baby seals  
In April 2008 we alerted you to the fake seal and pup shown on the left.

This is covered with the characteristic Guinness advertising slogans, the sure sign of a deceitful item.
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seals on rock  

Another fake seal and pup appeared on eBay in October 2008. This time the creatures are lying on a rock.

The typical fake script mark is used, this time printed in black as opposed to the alternative red. It is shown in the inset. ❑


Triple Whamy!
Fake Carlton Ware Walking Ware/Guinness cup Fake Carlton Ware Walking Ware/Guinness teapot

Fake Walking Ware, fake Guinness Ware, fake Carlton Ware! This cup and teapot are all three!

When told, the seller of the cup withdrew it from sale on eBay. ❑

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Sunday 28 September 2008
White Rabbit or White Elephant?
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness plate with white rabbit The White Rabbit by Sir John Tenniel 

Hot off the kiln
was this fake Carlton Ware Guinness plate that appeared on eBay in September 2008.

It features the White Rabbit from Lewis Carol's
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, loosely after a  drawing by John Tenniel shown left.

The plate carries a fake Guinness backstamp as shown. ❑

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Monday 19 August 2008
High price for Toucans stimulates sale of fakes

Original Carlton Ware Guinness flying toucans 1 Original Carlton Ware Guinness flying toucans 2
Original Carlton Ware Guinness flying toucans backstamp
Last week a set of original Carton Ware Guinness flying toucans sold on eBay for £980. The high price was realised because the set was still in its original cardboard box. The backstamp found on these delightful birds is shown on the right.

We suspected that this sale would stimulate even more Carlton Ware Guinness fakes to appear on the auction site. Within a short time all of the fakes below were placed by one seller alone.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness flying toucans

The fakes can be so convincing because they are are made from original moulds, although you can see that the decoration is somewhat inferior.

These Carlton Ware fakes began to appear in the early 1990s, not long after Carlton Ware was liquidated. It was then that the original moulds found there way into the hands of the fakers.
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness ostrich Fake Carlton Ware Guinness penguin Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seal
Fake Carlton Ware Guinness tortoise Fake Carlton Ware Guinness zoo keeper Fake Carlton Ware Guinness toucan jug

Fake Script backstamp black Fake Script backstamp red
The backstamps on these fakes are shown on the right, printed in black or red. They are very convincing but are printed onglaze and are therefore slightly raised above the surface of the base.

Onglaze lithographic marks such as those found on fakes, were not used until the Woods took over Carlton Ware in 1968, well after the Zoo Series of Guinness Ware was made at Copeland Street. Run your finger, or nail, over the fake mark and you can feel it is slightly above the surface on the these recently made, deceitful items. As the images show, light also catches these marks.

Confusingly, original marks before 1969, although printed underglaze, can sometimes also be raised. This depended on how the glaze over the top of it reacted with the colour with which the mark was printed.  If the print was 'heavy' it could rise slightly above the surface of the glaze on firing.

Please note.
Evidence of a raised backstamp, alone, is insufficient to identify a fake
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Fake Carlton Ware Guinness toucan

You can view pictures of the original Carlton Ware Guinness Zoo series from the Guinness Collectors Club site by clicking here.

You will notice that the figure of the toucan shown left is not part the series. It is likely that this was created by the faker, no doubt to add to its "rarity value"

This particular seller does not say that they are originals, or fakes. Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware. ❑

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Monday 11 August 2008
From the House of Faker

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness dishes - set of three

Yes, more from what we believe is from the House of Faker number 1. These three dishes carry a fake Script backstamp, in red.

We recently reviewed the suspected output of faker number 1 and have added these dishes to an increasing bank of images believed to be from this source, which you can view by clicking here. ❑
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Wednesday 6 August 2008
Time to Dwell

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness plate
A clock is featured on several Guinness Carlton Ware fakes, as on this plate that was spotted on eBay this week.

It carries a fake script backstamp printed in red on the brown coloured back (see inset). 

We think it is time to review this type of fake, which we believe is being made by the same faker. By looking at some of the range of fakes being made you will quickly be able to identify others that are not shown. To see those we have identified so far click here. ❑
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Tuesday 29 July 2008
Ebay seller withdraws fakes

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness dishes Fake Carlton Ware Guinness dishes backstamps Fake Carlton Ware Coco-Cola legs vase

After Carlton Ware World informed the seller of the above items that they were Carlton Ware fakes, the unwary vendor withdrew them from sale. Thank you eBayer.

The fake Guinness interlocking dishes, in the form of the Yin Yang symbol, shown in the first two pictures, carry the fake Script backstamp. On one dish this is in black, on the other it is in red.

The fake Coco Cola pot, one of the worst Walking Ware rip offs we have seen, has the fakers characteristic poorly painted shoes. We can be sure that the source of these pots is the same as many other fake advertising wares that we have alerted you to recently. ❑
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Saturday 12 July 2008
 
By featuring fakes here first, we hope that your familiarization with them will make it easier for you to identify the real McCoy.  In the first half of 2008, we witnessed a spate of new fakes and it is always when these first appear that buyers can be particularly vulnerable. So here goes with those we have spotted so far just in the first week in July 2008.

Guinness fakes continue to predominate. Here are another three for you to get to know. Giving the toucan a rest, below, is a fake Carlton Ware money box in the form of a puffin.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness Puffin 1   Fake Carlton Ware Guinness Puffin 2   Fake Carlton Ware Guinness Puffin backstamp  

Fake Guinness cube salt & pepper  




On the right is another salt & pepper, this time in the form of cubes mounted in a wooden stand.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness salt & pepper in the form of teapots 1 Fake Carlton Ware Guinness salt & pepper in the form of teapots 2

And yet another cruet on the left, in the form of teapots with the usual fake script mark in black.
The seller tells us "these belonged to my late aunt for a number of years"!  ❑
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Wednesday 25 June 2008
"Curiouser and curiouser!" said Alice
 

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness Tweedledee & Tweedledum salt & pepper  
This salt, pepper and tray, which was sold on eBay in June 2008 , shows Alice with Tweedledee and Tweedledum from Lewis Carole's Through the Looking Glass. The salt and pepper pots advertise Guinness on one side and Callard & Bowser, makers of sweets, on the other.  Curious indeed!

The item is listed as being by Carlton Ware but the Copeland Street pottery never made for Callard and Bowser, so the item is a fake on this count, let alone any others.
John Tenniel's illusration of Alice with Tweedledee & Tweedledum
The lithograph used on the salt and pepper is taken from one of John Tenniel's illustrations for the 1872 sequel to Lewis Carol's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. The original wood engraving is shown on the right.

Tenniel shelved the first print run of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland because he objected to the print quality. We wonder what he would have made of the fakers adaptation of his work?

The sale of these salt and pepper pots attracted 4 bids and they sold for £16 including p&p. ❑
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Monday 16 June 2008
Guinness - not so good!

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness cruet 1  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness cruet 2  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness backstamps        
This fake Carlton Ware cruet, supposedly commissioned by Guinness, has recently surfaced on eBay. The picture on the far right above shows two fake backstamps used, namely the fake Script mark in red and a fake backstamp telling us falsely Produced in Great Britain for Arthur Guinness Son & Co (Park Royal) Ltd.

The fake cruet attracted five bidders and sold  for an astonishing £137 including p&p. 

This has to originate from the same stable as the fake rectangular dish that we alerted you to at the beginning of April, and shown below.


Fake Carlton Ware Guinness rectangular tray


Expect to see the same lithographs of the same toucans and associated Guinness slogans on other shapes. As soon as they appear on eBay we will let you know. ❑

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Double Trouble Bobble.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness penguin salt & pepper.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness penguins salt & pepper   Fake Carlton Ware backstamp   
The same seller offered a fake Carlton Ware Guinness Penguin salt & pepper. The penguins are wearing scarves and bobble hats and appear to be crudely modelled. They were listed for sale at the same time as the fake Bassett's wine gums mug in the previous article. Both have a fake red script backstamp shown above.  The salt & pepper attracted 3 bids and sold for £28 including p&p. ❑
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Saturday 4 May 2008
My Goodness it's not Carlton Ware

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness Teapot 1  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness Teapot 2

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness Teapot backstamp 
The maker of this fake Carlton Ware teapot has gone to some expense to produce a coloured lithograph plagiarising the work of John Gilroy, the artist who devised the Guinness Zoo animals.

Expect to see this same, or similar, lithograph used on other items.

The deceitful backstamp, shown left, begins

Produced in Great Britain for Arthur Guinness & Son Park Royal Ltd.

This item sold for £46 including p&p.

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness storage jar  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness water jug 
As expected, the lithograph on the fake teapot has appeared on a fake storage jar, shown far left. It sold for £12 including p&p.

The same seller also offered a water jug, shown left, yet another Carlton Ware fake.
It sold for £15 including p&p.
 
No backstamp was shown for either item, but from the description it is likely to be similar to that on the teapot above.  ❑
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Saturday 5 April 2008
More Guinness Fakes appear on eBay

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness rectangular dish Fake Carlton Ware Guinness rectangular dish backstamp
Beware! Described by the seller as "a fantastic opportunity to get this very rare, Carlton Ware vintage Guinness collectable hors d'oeuvres dish."

Bidding ended on 9 April 2008 and the fake item sold for £41.50 including p&p!


Fake Carlton Ware Guinness alphabet dishes  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness alphabet dishes backstamp
Beware! Described by the same seller as "a fantastic opportunity to get this very rare, Carlton Ware vintage Guinness collectable set of three hors d'oeuvres dishes. They are in very good condition with no damage anywhere, apart from the lid of the box, which is missing."

Bidding ended on 9 April 2008 and the fake item sold for £36 including p&p!

Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seal and pup  Fake Carlton Ware Guinness seal & pup backstamp
Beware! Described by the same seller as "a fantastic opportunity to get these very rare, Carlton Ware vintage Guinness collectable pair of seals. They are in perfect condition and if you collect Guinness items you won't get better than these."

Bidding ended on 9 April 2008 and the fake item sold for £42.86 including p&p! ❑

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Friday 17 April 2009
Three New Fakes spotted
Fake Guinness, Fake Carlton Ware teapot Fake Guinness, Fake Carlton Ware penguin water jug Fake Guinness, Fake Carlton Ware dolphin
What more can we say other than that the penguin is particularly gross. It sold for £64 plus p&p! All claim to be Carlton Ware.  ❑



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